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This model and its version(s) were merged for the sole purpose of finally having a decent out of the box consistent Realism model based on Noob. The "HD" and "V-Pred" versions are made for higher resolution raw gens and upscaling.

!!! If you are having problems, noisy images, or prompt issues please scroll down to "Common Problems" !!!

This is the second version of Willy's Noob Realism V-Pred.

This version is almost a hybrid between the old style of model and the newer V-Pred v1.0, allowing for both darker scenes, and bright natural lighting scenes similar to that of the old EPS models and the V-Pred alpha.

As I slowly continue to try to improve on my models, I've found it getting harder and harder to improve the quality of the model without causing significant other issues or significant notable loss of knowledge in certain areas.

In this version I've replaced the clip-L and tweaked the models using my own and other specific loras.

This version works well with CFG 4-9. The lower the CFG the more balanced the colors, working better with darker scenes, and higher CFG works better with saturated colors and bright scenes.

This is the first release version of Willy’s Noob Realism V-Pred.

This version is a bit different from the earlier versions of Willy's Noob Realism, so you can expect it to behave differently in some ways. While there’s a bit of style loss compared to before, this version keeps the high resolution detail and realism—and, most importantly, it reintroduces proper lighting overall, which every previous version struggled with.

Getting this V-Pred model where I want it has been way tougher than I expected. What I thought would be a quick process turned into weeks of experimenting just to find a way to bring proper lighting back into a model that seemed almost incapable of handling it. (For perspective, getting from v4 to V-Pred alpha only took a single day—everything after that has been the real grind.)

What I’ve learned along the way is that both the style and the lighting issues both sit in the same weight layers. That makes fixing them tricky, since the options are either doing some pretty janky merging, or spending a ton of time diving deeper into each layer and many hours of experimentation.

This version works well with a CFG of 5-7. Lower CFG is better for darker scenes while higher CFG is better for brighter scenes and more saturated colors.

V-Pred Alpha is the first version of Willy's Noob Realism that uses v-pred instead of eps noise prediction.

This version is capable of more vibrant colors, and overall darker, and lighter images.

Being the Alpha version, its far from perfect. Fixing the "spotlight" issue from eps, and training back in proper dark lighting for dark scenes was taking significantly longer than I anticipated, so I decided to release the initial version now rather than making people wait longer while I continue to play around with datasets and training settings.

V-Pred models don't typically play nice with play nice with a lot of sampler & scheduler combinations. So with this version you might have to play around to find what works right, or you can go back to v1.0's recommended sampling settings which work perfectly fine.

HD v4.0 is the newest and final version of the "HD" series of Willy's Noob Realism models. This version was made as a final attempt to increase realism, while reinforcing previously lost knowledge and further stabilizing the model.

This version can generate realism without the usual required quality and style tags, and does not need any negative prompts.

Where do we go from here?: My next goal is to make a proper v-prediction version of Willy's Noob Realism.

This version was merged to further increase realism, allowing for more variety and expressiveness. Fixed foliage and most backgrounds while limiting excess noise.

This version has been tested with both Euler A & Beta, and DPM++ 2m SDE & Karras and works with both tag based prompting, and some natural language prompting. (Works best with just tags, or a combination of tags and natural language)

HD v3.0 has improved stability at higher resolutions, capable of fully stable 1920x1920 raw generations, and 2048x2048 raw generations with minimal to moderate issues depending on prompt and aspect ratio. Raising the CFG can increase stability further with problematic prompts at 2048x2048. (Skimmed CFG can be used to decrease oversaturation caused by high CFG)

This version was merged to increase realism, while attempting to fix the problems with noisy backgrounds, while retaining its knowledge of complex topics and species. Can generate raw images up to 1920x1920 with minimal issues.

Uses the same version specific settings as HD v1.

This version was made to increase realism, while allowing for higher resolution base gens with the quality of an upscaled image! This version is capable of generating images from 768x768 to 1920x1920 resolutions without breaking.

Version Specific Settings:

Prompting is the same as the other models, but to get the most detail out of higher resolution images generating images with at least 50 steps is suggested. Please refer to the "Recommended Settings" for more information.

If you are getting images with unintended multiple characters, make sure to include the tag "solo".

Longer, more detailed prompts result in more stable and typically more detailed images.

Certain prompts may not be fully stable in this version, so play around.

This version uses the same settings as v1.0, and is an overall improvement in realism, and better support for upscaling.

Initial release version.

TL:DR Its very simple, just prompt however you usually would for noob, but add "realistic", and "photorealism" after your quality tags.

I suggest using Euler A with Beta scheduler, or DPM++ 2m SDE with Karras scheduler (does not work with v-pred) at a CFG of 5-7 and steps of 20-50, but feel free to experiment. Not all schedulers and settings work for everyone.

Here's a positive prompt example:

And here's a basic filled in example:

And here is my suggested negative prompt:

(Negative prompt is no longer needed for quality images)

These are my personal recommendations, but feel free to experiment and use what ever settings you feel works for you!

My recommended settings aren't set in stone, just my own personal preferences from testing and using the model in ComfyUI

Unless you specify a gender, it will automatically generate female characters or characters with breasts due to its bias towards women.

The tag "1girl" can cause issues with certain prompts when trying to generate realistic humans. If you are getting strange outputs, try just using the tag "female" instead.

If you are getting unwanted multiple characters, make sure to include the tag "solo"

Beta scheduler is not properly implemented in Forge and will result in heavily artifacted noisy images. Here is a list of working Schedulers for Forge: https://civitai.com/posts/11756794

From my testing Beta scheduler does work in Reforge however some have been experiencing problems. I suggest you make sure Reforge is up to date before complaining to me. Otherwise most other samplers work perfectly fine in Reforge.

Here is a list of working Schedulers for Reforge: https://civitai.com/posts/11756585

Nobody using A1111 has actually expressed any issues. If you are having issues with A1111, I would suggest verifying your settings.

Here is a list of working Schedulers for A1111: https://civitai.com/posts/11757173

Some people have also been experiencing small VAE artifacts while using Reforge. This is likely due to your VAE settings not being set correctly. This model uses the default sdxl.vae.safetensors sdxl VAE.

Some EPS loras can cause problems with the V-PRED versions of this model such as the EPS "spotlight" effect, making night/dark lighting brighter, or colors less saturated.

This model was merged with furries in mind, but is fully capable of generating all kinds of realistic humans and humanoid fantasy species. I have extensively tested it with all kinds of different unique furry species, all kinds of humanoid fantasy creatures, and humans. I have also tested its compatibility with SDXL, PDXL, IL, Noob loras. Most loras trained on proper tags will work with the model, although Noob loras work best (since that is the base model for this merge), and other SDXL based model loras will likely work with varying success.

"Fake slider" Pony loras will not work, as those are trained on Pony's quality tags for activation (There are very few of these, so just be warned).

I plan on making better versions of this over time as more resources come out, or if I have time to make some realism or other Loras to further fortify it.