OsaurusAI/Qwen3.8-27B-JANG_2D
The smallest tier — a 2-bit-class mixed allocation for tight memory budgets.
A JANG bundle of
Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
— Qwen's 27B dense hybrid (GatedDeltaNet + gated attention) vision-language
model with flexible thinking control — quantized for Apple Silicon / MLX and
runnable with stock
mlx_vlm. Text, image and video paths are all present in
this exact bundle, with the model's native multi-token-prediction head preserved.
This is the aggressive tier. It is meaningfully lossier than JANG_4D — the numbers below are stated plainly so you can choose with your eyes open. If you have the memory, take 4D.
Why this quant
- Measured allocation, not name rules — every quantized module got its
bit width from a Hessian-trace sensitivity capture (tr(H)·‖W‖²_F) over a
164,105-token, 8-domain calibration corpus, so bits go where this model
actually needs them.
- AWQ applied (α=0.25), folded into the producing RMSNorm using this
family's zero-centered (+1) convention. Measured with an identical bit map
and pipeline, AWQ is worth ~20 % lower KL at identical bits
(0.01002 vs 0.01245).
- imatrix refit on every module ≤ 8 bits — activation-weighted least
squares against the same capture, at zero size cost. The refit re-applies the
AWQ scales, so it does not silently revert them.
- fp16 where quantization would lie — the 27 vision-block
linear_fc2
projections (in_features 4304, indivisible by any MLX quant group) pass
through in fp16 rather than being force-fit.
- The full serving contract is stamped, not documented-elsewhere — sampling
presets, reasoning-effort tiers, thinking defaults, EOS pair and context
guidance are all machine-readable in the bundle.
Measured quality
Scored against the bf16 source (not against another quant) on 24 held-out
prompts that are disjoint from the calibration corpus, teacher-forced on the
reference's greedy continuation.
| Metric | Value |
|---|
| Held-out KL vs bf16 (median) | 0.2004 nats |
| Held-out top-1 agreement | 86.72 % |
| MTP depth-1 draft acceptance | 85.9 % |
| Decode speed (M5 Max, depth 1) | 48.5 tok/s |
| Decode speed (best depth = 1) | 48.5 tok/s |
| On disk | 10.64 GiB |
| Runs on | Apple Silicon with ≥ 16 GB unified memory |
Median KL is reported rather than mean: against a near-deterministic reference
continuation KL is unbounded, so a single low-entropy prompt dominates a mean.
The lineup
JANG_2D (10.6 GiB) ·
JANG_4D (16.6 GiB) ·
JANG_6D (23.6 GiB) ·
MXFP8 (26.4 GiB)
Model + bundle facts
| Field | Value |
|---|
| Base model | Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B (dense 27B VLM) |
| Layout | 64 layers — 48 GatedDeltaNet + 16 gated full-attention (partial RoPE dim 64) |
| Vision | native image + video tower (501 tensors, preserved) |
| MTP | native multi-token-prediction head preserved (31 tensors, own shard) |
| Context | 262,144 native, extensible to 1M |
| Quantization | 219x2-bit / 172x3-bit / 125x4-bit / 64x8-bit |
Serving contract (stamped in the bundle)
Read these from generation_config.json + jang_config.json rather than
re-deriving them:
- Thinking ON by default —
temperature=1.0, top_p=0.95, top_k=20. This is
the agentic preset and the correct preset for coding agents.
Instruct / non-thinking preset: temperature=0.7, top_p=0.80, top_k=20, presence_penalty=1.5.
reasoning_effort: low / medium / xhigh (default xhigh), carried
as a chat-template kwarg.
preserve_thinking ON by default — Qwen3.8 retains reasoning context
across turns, and it is prefix-cache friendly.
- Reasoning OFF = prefilled closed
<think>\n\n</think>\n\n, never plain
omission. Reasoning parser qwen3; tool-call parser qwen3_coder
(XML function dialect).
- Stop on both EOS ids
248046 and 248044.
- Recommended output budget: up to 262,144 reasoning + 131,072 final tokens.
Use it
1from mlx_vlm import load, generate
2
3model, processor = load("OsaurusAI/Qwen3.8-27B-JANG_2D")
4
5out = generate(model, processor, "Describe this image.", image=["photo.png"],
6 max_tokens=512, temperature=1.0, top_p=0.95)
Video note: render video prompts through the bundle's own chat template
({"type": "video"} → <|vision_start|><|video_pad|><|vision_end|>);
mlx_vlm.prompt_utils.apply_chat_template silently drops video items.
MTP head
The native MTP head is preserved as its own shard (31 tensors). Depth-1 draft
acceptance was measured at 85.9 %
on the model's own generated span — i.e. the span speculative decoding actually
drafts, not the prompt.
Speculation depth. Measured against a warm KV cache: best_depth is
1 at 48.5 tok/s (depth 1 = 48.5 tok/s). Deeper speculation stops
paying fast — each extra verified token adds ~20% to the target decode step,
so depth 3 is a net loss on every tier. The bundle stamps the measured
depth in vmlx_mtp_tuning.json with its baseline/best/speedup evidence.
Head width was measured to be irrelevant to acceptance between 4-bit gs64 and
8-bit gs128 (spread inside one standard error, and non-monotonic), so the head
is stored at the cheapest width that costs nothing.
Acceptance is strongly shape-dependent — it moves ~17 points across
reasoning/tool/turn-shape changes, and structured tool output drafts far better
than prose. Treat a single acceptance figure as one slice, not a guarantee.
Credits
Quantized by Jinho Jang —
eric@osaurus.ai